Betaduo Injectable

By Palm Princess Latest Activity January 15, 2012 at 10:52 am Views 8,025 Replies 30 Likes 3

Palm Princess

I recently learned of a drug being used in Latin Americal countries (not approved in Canada or the USA yet, that doesn't make it any more dangerous than anything else, just cheaper :S ). It's used to treat everything from allergies to RA. Anyway, one of my friends is on it. One shot every 4 to 6 weeks and she sees tremendous improvement within very little time and with very few but tolerable side effects. Calls it her miracle drug. Nothing else has ever worked and it's enabled her to drop from a size 14 to an 8!!! No pain easier to exercise = happy healthier joints and you!

I know I am going to relocate just to try it and if it gives me back my life, then it will be well worth it…

Anyone else ever consider becoming an expat for health reasons?

What are your thoughts on unapproved drugs?

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  • WASHED OUT
    WASHED OUT February 15 at 2:22 pm   

    I tried to look this up in English, but am not sure if this is what is being discussed here. Here is a site that may be talking about it. Maybe someone can check to see, if this is it then it looks complicated to understand at least for me.
    https://google.com/patents/WO2005027900A1?cl=en

  • redorangedog
    redorangedog February 15 at 11:01 am   

    My rheumatologist recommends using Cannabis for pain.

  • ABBY19
    ABBY19 March 6, 2012 at 7:33 am   

    I live in Latin America and yesterday I visit the doctor pecause an inflamation in one of the fingers of my right hand. He recomended betaduo2, just one shot a the inflamation goes down about 80% just one night. Additional, all other pains like in the neck, back are very released. I feel very good.

  • caramba
    caramba February 1 at 8:19 pm   
    Edited February 1 at 8:21 pm by caramba

    I also had that treatment in Dominican Republic September 2015. I don't know how I used to function. Severe/chronic pain suffering from Arthritis, fibromyalgia, I was given an injection (betaduo 2mg)My miracle drug!!!!!! at time of my visit and was walking fine after 5 hours. It was a set of injections.

  • Palm Princess
    Palm Princess March 6, 2012 at 5:56 pm   

    Very awesome for you! If you could ask him what the long term side effects are and let us know that would be greatly appreciated. Two weeks I'll be in RD, and then after I find semi permanent home, I will be looking for a doctor. Thanx!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous March 8, 2012 at 3:25 pm   

    Each person reacts different to medication. I have a meeting with him on Monday and will ask about. Regards

  • Holly3
    Holly3 February 9, 2012 at 12:22 am   

    I live in San Diego so I hear all the time about people going across the border for medicines and treatments not approved by the FDA. I have never heard of a positive outcome from any of these so-called miracle treatments but I have known people who have gotten themselves in dangerous medical situations because of these drugs.

  • Palm Princess
    Palm Princess February 10, 2012 at 12:05 am   

    Absolutely, that's why I'm researching :).

  • NewEnglandGuy
    NewEnglandGuy January 21, 2012 at 8:55 pm   

    I did a bit of research on this,it's corticosteroid,similar to prednisone.Long term use can cause numerous very serious side effects.It's manufactured and marketed in Columbia.Sure it will probably relieve your pain short term but like prednisone it does not slow the progression of the disease and too much too long will only add to your woes.I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole…just my 2 cents.

  • Palm Princess
    Palm Princess January 22, 2012 at 11:53 pm   

    What are the side effects that you found, please if you can, provide a link. Because of previous medical conditions I am limited to what I can take, all I can actually take is plaquenil.

  • NewEnglandGuy
    NewEnglandGuy January 23, 2012 at 4:57 am   
    Edited May 19, 2015 at 12:05 pm by Alma Smith

    It's Betamethasone. Like all high potency drugs there are many potential side effects and like prednisone long term use can prevent your body from producing natural steroids.You would need blood monitoring on a regular basis for safety reasons. http://www.drugs.com/cdi/betamethasone.html

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&a...

    I don't know where you got your information about it not yet used in the USA.Unless it's slightly altered somehow overseas,but from what I read about it,it can be prescribed here.

  • Palm Princess
    Palm Princess January 25, 2012 at 12:06 am   

    Yes, Betamethasone has been used for years. It's the Betaduo that I can't source out in US or Canada. This is not simple Betamethasone. From what I've learned it's a derivative. What the implications and mechanics are, that I don't know. That is what I want to know.

    I found the same info from your second link, still doesn't really state the side-effects.

    I read that it hadn't been approved by the FDA or the CDA. It is an injectable of the following two compounds:

    Composition: BETADUO suspension is sterile aqueous injection containing in each ml, 5 mg of betamethasone dipropionate in the form of suspension and 2 mg betamethasone disodium phosphate in solution.

    Separately, I have found them available, not both by injection. But as a duo injectable I have not found.

    I have found next to no info on side effects. What I want to know is does it also lead to osteoporosis as prednisone does.

    I have found that it doesn't cause the water retention that prednisone has.

    And, this IS proceeding with caution. That's why I'm trying to find information.

  • NewEnglandGuy
    NewEnglandGuy January 25, 2012 at 5:14 am   

    I did read somewhere that Betamethasone dipropionate(which is marketed as Betaduo) has the same possible side effects as all corticosteroids such as prednisone, it falls into that category.If I find that link again I'll post it for you.

  • NewEnglandGuy
    NewEnglandGuy January 18, 2012 at 9:04 pm   

    I would proceed with caution.

  • lovemy12baby
    lovemy12baby January 15, 2012 at 6:56 pm   

    I have done alot of research Meds myself and have had good luck except one I had severe reactions to

  • marieanne
    marieanne January 15, 2012 at 2:21 pm   

    Good post Dear1, this does sound great. :) We (I believe) are all looking for
    something like this. I wonder why it takes so long to get here to us. Keep
    us posted on this, would you? Good luck to you. :) A few side effects-
    just know everyone's different, I would do some more research bf taking it,
    but, I always try to do that on anything new. You probably do, too. Hugs,
    marieanne

  • redorangedog
    redorangedog February 15 at 12:18 pm   

    Hello Palm Princess,
    You are missed here on this site. Wishing you well. See side effects and interactions on webMD.com. Steroids have many side effects. Swelling, hunger and a Moon Face just for starters. Yes, everyone reacts differently to drugs. Turmeric helps to relieve swollen joints (Curcumin) is not expensive & available online at Amazon.com and most healthfood and grocery stores. Berries are also antioxidants. The Mediterranean diet is suggested for people who have Arthritis and Heart problem, seafood, lots of bright colored fruits & berries. Good luck finding a miracle,
    Pain lets you know that you are alive. We all have pain emotional and physical.
    Music increases your dopamine level by 10%. Dancing is good exercise. We can have a good attitude, diet and exercise. Can't pick your parents, genetic diseases, and sexual orientation are in our genes. We can't predict how we die but can choose how we live.
    Wishing you wellness,

  • redorangedog
    redorangedog February 15 at 12:28 pm   

    Side Effects
    Nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, heartburn, trouble sleeping, increased sweating, or acne may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, tell your doctor or pharmacist promptly.

    Remember that your doctor has prescribed this medication because he or she has judged that the benefit to you is greater than the risk of side effects. Many people using this medication do not have serious side effects.

    Tell your doctor right away if any of these unlikely but serious side effects occur: muscle pain/cramps, irregular heartbeat, weakness, swelling hands/ankles/feet, unusual weight gain, signs of infection (such as fever, persistent sore throat), vision problems (such as blurred vision), vomit that looks like coffee grounds, black/bloody stools, severe stomach/abdominal pain, mental/mood changes (such as depression, mood swings, agitation), slow wound healing, thinning skin, bone pain, menstrual period changes, puffy face, seizures, easy bruising/bleeding.

    This medication may rarely make your blood sugar level rise, which can cause or worsen diabetes. Tell your doctor right away if you develop symptoms of high blood sugar, such as increased thirst and urination. If you already have diabetes, be sure to check your blood sugars regularly. Your doctor may need to adjust your diabetes medication, exercise program, or diet.

    A very serious allergic reaction to this product is rare. However, get medical help right away if you notice any symptoms of a serious allergic reaction, including: rash, itching/swelling (especially of the face/tongue/throat), severe dizziness, trouble breathing.

    This is not a complete list of possible side effects. If you notice other effects not listed above, contact your doctor or pharmacist.

    In the US -

    Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects. You may report side effects to FDA at 1-800-FDA-1088 or at www.fda.gov/medwatch.

  • redorangedog
    redorangedog February 15 at 12:29 pm   

    Precautions
    Before taking prednisone, tell your doctor or pharmacist if you are allergic to it; or if you have any other allergies. This product may contain inactive ingredients, which can cause allergic reactions or other problems. Talk to your pharmacist for more details.

    Before using this medication, tell your doctor or pharmacist your medical history, especially of: current/past infections (such as fungal infections, tuberculosis, herpes), heart problems (such as heart failure, recent heart attack), high blood pressure, thyroid problems, kidney disease, liver disease, stomach/intestinal problems (such as ulcer, diverticulitis), bone loss (osteoporosis), mental/mood disorders (such as psychosis, anxiety, depression), eye diseases (such as cataracts, glaucoma), diabetes, mineral imbalance (such as low level of potassium/calcium in the blood), seizures, blood clots, bleeding problems.

    Using corticosteroid medications for a long time can make it more difficult for your body to respond to physical stress. Therefore, before having surgery or emergency treatment, or if you get a serious illness/injury, tell your doctor or dentist that you are using this medication or have used this medication within the past 12 months. Tell your doctor right away if you develop unusual/extreme tiredness or weight loss. If you will be using this medication for a long time, carry a warning card or medical ID bracelet that identifies your use of this medication.

    Before having surgery, tell your doctor or dentist about all the products you use (including prescription drugs, nonprescription drugs, and herbal products).

    This medication may mask signs of infection. It can make you more likely to get infections or may worsen any current infections. Therefore, wash your hands well to prevent the spread of infection. Avoid contact with people who have infections that may spread to others (such as chickenpox, measles, flu). Consult your doctor if you have been exposed to an infection or for more details.

    This medication may contain sugar and/or alcohol. Caution is advised if you have diabetes, liver disease, or any other condition that requires you to limit/avoid these substances in your diet. Ask your doctor or pharmacist about using this product safely.

    This medication may cause vaccines not to work as well. Do not have immunizations/vaccinations without the consent of your doctor. Avoid contact with people who have recently received live vaccines (such as flu vaccine inhaled through the nose).

    This medicine may cause stomach bleeding. Daily use of alcohol while using this medicine may increase your risk for stomach bleeding. Limit alcoholic beverages. Consult your doctor or pharmacist for more information.

    This medication may slow down a child's growth if used for a long time. Consult the doctor or pharmacist for more details. See the doctor regularly so your child's height and growth can be checked.

    During pregnancy, this medication should be used only when clearly needed. It may rarely harm an unborn baby. Discuss the risks and benefits with your doctor. Infants born to mothers who have been using this medication for an extended period of time may have hormone problems. Tell your doctor right away if you notice symptoms such as persistent nausea/vomiting, severe diarrhea, or weakness in your newborn.

    This medication passes into breast milk but is unlikely to harm a nursing infant. Consult your doctor before breast-feeding.

  • redorangedog
    redorangedog February 15 at 12:31 pm   

    Interactions
    Drug interactions may change how your medications work or increase your risk for serious side effects. This document does not contain all possible drug interactions. Keep a list of all the products you use (including prescription/nonprescription drugs and herbal products) and share it with your doctor and pharmacist. Do not start, stop, or change the dosage of any medicines without your doctor's approval.

    Some products that may interact with this drug include: aldesleukin, mifepristone, drugs that can cause bleeding/bruising (including antiplatelet drugs such as clopidogrel, "blood thinners" such as dabigatran/warfarin, NSAIDs such as aspirin/celecoxib/ibuprofen).

    If your doctor has directed you to take low-dose aspirin for heart attack or stroke prevention (usually at dosages of 81-325 milligrams a day), you should continue taking it unless your doctor instructs you otherwise. Ask your doctor or pharmacist for more details.

    This medication may interfere with certain laboratory tests (including skin tests), possibly causing false test results. Make sure laboratory personnel and all your doctors know you use this drug.

  • WASHED OUT
    WASHED OUT February 15 at 10:03 pm   

    What really is this stuff anyhow?

  • redorangedog
    redorangedog February 16 at 2:38 pm   

    No magic elixir or cure for arthritis.

  • redorangedog
    redorangedog February 16 at 2:34 pm   

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  • redorangedog
    redorangedog February 15 at 10:52 pm   

    Check out the use of this drug in Colombia, Spain and Dominican Republic if you have a computer that translates. I did and did not like what it said. It is being used on mice & rats. The USA is not ready to use the in USA. If you have the have the inflammatory gene there is not a cure available.

  • redorangedog
    redorangedog February 15 at 10:45 pm   

    This is being tested on mice and rats in the USA. Not safe for humans at this time. Has many side effects same as other steroids.

  • redorangedog
    redorangedog February 15 at 10:43 pm   

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  • Palm Princess
    Palm Princess January 15, 2012 at 11:32 am   

    Spain likely has it and that will likely be the closest if you can't. Prominent in Spanish speaking countries, manufactured in Columbia.

  • Bernio
    Bernio January 15, 2012 at 11:28 am   

    Sorry just seen the heading, wonder if I can get it in uk!!

  • Bernio
    Bernio January 15, 2012 at 11:27 am   

    What's it called?

  • Gam68
    Gam68 January 23, 2012 at 10:45 am   

    Research extensively before taking.

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